John F. Sackman 1 2 3
- Born: April 1888, Ohio 1
- Died: 15 April 1988, Phoenix, AZ at age 100 3
Birth Notes:
This is a death record for a Sackman infant born in 1888. According to the 1900 census for John Sackman his birth date was given as Apr 1888. The only way this would be possible to have two children each born in Apr 1888 yet one died in 1888 and the other lived well into his adulthood would for the birth to be for twins. Therefore, there must have been another twin to John Sackman that must have been stillborn or died within days.
Name:Sackman Gender:Unknown Death Date:01 Apr 1888 Death Place:Monroe Township., Richland, Ohio Age:0 Birth Date:1888 Birthplace:Monroe Township., Race:White Marital Status:Single Father's Name:Frank Sackman Mother's Name:Louisa Sackman Indexing Project (Batch) Number:B07049-3 System Origin:Ohio-EASy GS Film number:397773 Reference ID:v 1 p 302
Citing this Record: "Ohio, Deaths and Burials, 1854-1997," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F66H-P9F : accessed 28 Apr 2014), Louisa Sackman in entry for Sackman, 01 Apr 1888; citing Monroe Township., Richland, Ohio, reference v 1 p 302; FHL microfilm 397773.
To complicate this even more, there is another birth record for an un-named Sackman male but this birth record indicates that he was born 10 Mar 1889. What is unusual about this birth date is that it precisely matches that date on the gravestone for John Sackman in Mesa, Arizona and is the birth date given for him in the death records.
Name:Unknown Sackman Event Type:Birth Event Date:10 Mar 1889 Event Place:Monroe, Richland, Ohio Gender:Male Race:White Father's Name:Frank Sackman Mother's Name:Louisa Kauf Reference ID:v 2 p 402 GS Film number:541328 Digital Folder Number:004011638 Image Number:01858 Citing this Record: "Ohio, County Births, 1841-2003," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X6ZS-F72 : accessed 05 May 2014), Frank Sackman in entry for Unknown Sackman, 10 Mar 1889; citing v 2 p 402, Monroe, Richland, Ohio;
So when was John Sackman born? His birth date of Apr 1888 given on the 1900 census would seem to conflict with the death records for an infant that died at that time unless, of course, there was a twin birth. But then who was born on 10 Mar 1889? That date matches precisely the date on the gravestone for John Sackman buried in Arizona. If one were to believe that the 10 Mar 1889 birth date, then the Apr 1888 must have been for just a single birth of a stillborn baby that was un-named. This would all seem so clear if only the Apr 1888 on the 1900 census was not there to confuse everything. -----------------------------------------------------------------
Death Notes:
Although both of the following death records spell the surname as Saxman instead of Sackman, they are believed to be for the correct person because in the obituary for one or more of his siblings, John's residence is mentioned as Phoenix, Arizona. It is unclear as to how or why he would change the spelling of the surname.
Note that both death records are for an individual that was born on 10 Mar 1889 instead of the expected Apr 1888. The actual gravestone for John Saxman in the City of Mesa Cemetery shows his birth date as 10 Mar 1889 which is the same as the death records yet the person who created a memorial page on Find-A-Grave.com gave his birth date as 10 Apr 1889.
Name:John Saxman Event Type: Burial Event Place: Mesa, Maricopa, Arizona, United States Cemetery: City of Mesa Cemetery Birth Date: 10 Mar 1889 Death Date: 15 Apr 1988 Affiliate Image Identifier: 2794532 Latitude: 33.43833 Longitude: -111.83222 Affiliate Create Date: 2012-12-26 22:34:42 Citing this Record: "BillionGraves Index," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KXMM-TZV : accessed 06 May 2014), John Saxman, 15 Apr 1988; citing City of Mesa Cemetery, Mesa, Arizona.
Given Name: John Surname: Saxman Birth Date: 10 March 1889 Social Security Number: 527-44-7723 State:Arizona Last Place of Residence:Tempe, Maricopa, Arizona Previous Residence Postal Code: 85282 Event Date: 15 April 1988 Age: 99 Citing this Record: "United States Social Security Death Index," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JBSM-4NB : accessed 06 May 2014), null, 15 Apr 1988; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing). ---------------------------------------------------------------
Noted events in his life were:
• He appeared on the 1900 US Census in Mansfield, OH on 14 June 1900. 1
Page 21A, District 122, Dwelling 444, Family 478 Mansfield, Richland County, Ohio 77 Stockens Avenue; home owned with mortgage Johnny Sackman...Son..Apr 1888..12..OH..At School (Living with parents.) .
• He appeared on the 1910 US Census in Mansfield, OH on April 1910. 2
Sheet 10A, District 182, Household 238 Mansfield, Richland County, Ohio, United States John Sackman..Son..20..OH (Living with parents.)
NOTE - If his birth date was Apr 1888, then his age should have been 21 instead of 20. .
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